Official: No New Firebird

**TmaxicanA** · 02-20-2008, 07:40 PM

after it's all said and done...and the beefy V8's are out I think they will all be right around the same 1/4 time ...and just like before ...ford needs forced induction to keep up with the others

**Silver Streak** · 02-20-2008, 07:49 PM

I could be wrong... but I remember reading somewhere.. that GM is going to drop ALL rear wheel drive vehicles because of these new standards.. did anyone else read that? I dunno.. all I can say is that GM is screwing themselves more and more everyday...

**Silver Streak** · 02-20-2008, 07:54 PM

Well.. I guess once the 02 is paid off.. I'll be looking elsewhere to buy my new car....

**Method** · 02-20-2008, 07:57 PM

I think we all have to be real with ourselves as well too, a new firebird would sell initially well just due to the shock and awe value, but after a few years, then what. Most cars don't have long lineages anymore. I think if GM made it again it would be more for the previous owners, and a small market. They're looking at the big picture.

Pontiac has been the poor bastard child of GM for a long time now, and I've owned 4 of them in my short car life-time, but it seems like they always take a back seat to the chevs. Which I'm fine with, but being proud of your ride is also something, and I don't feel as if the brand has any right now.

The reason why the mustang has been so successful is that Ford is behind it 100%, it's never given up on it, and has found ways to distinguish it. Ford has a variety of options and price points. I think GM has to create a sports car like the mustang, at the price points of them, and I doubt the camaro will even make a blip on the radar when all the dust settles after a few years.

**Method** · 02-20-2008, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Silver Streak

Well.. I guess once the 02 is paid off.. I'll be looking elsewhere to buy my new car....

Good thing for vette's!

**Mecinoid** · 02-21-2008, 12:31 AM

Man, I'm really F'd. I guess I'll just have to keep my Bird for the next twenty-thirty years and keep rebuilding her. Next rebuild LS3 TT. That should keep those others at bay.

I'd love to get a Corvette except the wife is boycotting them as she can't see out the window. Doh !!!

Heck, when all is said and done. With $40K I can do an awful lot to my little bird. ;-)

Done this before .... We can do it again ... no problem.

**mghawk57** · 02-21-2008, 05:26 AM

I still think a '12 Firebird would be cool!

**blackbirdbrain89** · 02-21-2008, 05:44 AM

i think a new firebird would be cool i would not buy one but cool, i am a hater of the zeta body. the gto made me that way .. 350 -400 ho and run a 13.5 at best ... 4 gen

5 gen/zeta

**TmaxicanA** · 02-21-2008, 07:48 AM

gm is no where near screwed, they have there trucks. and the sweet new malibu, corvettes, RWD impala will be cool to. heck I would be fine with just a v6 camaro (personal opinion) with 300 HP that's awesome! long live gm! down with ford

**gprodigys** · 02-24-2008, 11:54 AM

No if they only made v6 camaros, I would be pissed. They could not call it a camaro unless they had a v8 option.

**BANDITCAR** · 02-24-2008, 08:24 PM

No Firebird!

My car just increased by, at least, another million! Time to go to Barrett-Jackson!

pffft!

I knew it was gone a long time ago...no use being in denial about it. I'm proud to have the Last of the Breed and never have to worry about someone else having a newer Trans Am on the road next to me.

**SS/CETA** · 02-24-2008, 10:39 PM

Are they making the G8 a front-drive car? I'm so out of the loop, so I apologize in advance for knowing nothing about the car other than the last two seconds of the commercial.

**FreeBird89** · 02-25-2008, 01:05 AM

damn it

**Too Fast** · 02-25-2008, 02:49 AM

G8 is rear drive.

**sevret.t** · 02-26-2008, 06:29 PM

that sucks, although im interested in seeing how the new ls2 powered g8 will do here in the states

**TmaxicanA** · 02-27-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by sevret.t

that sucks, although im interested in seeing how the new ls2 powered g8 will do here in the states

..well the sad part is they coudnt get the HP rating up to 400 which the gto had ...365 is all they pushed so im guessing 14's

**ATCharming** · 02-29-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by *JC*

Sadly, I'm not as thrilled about this news as you?

Guess this means my Next new Pontiac will be something 5,10,15,20,25 or 30 years old. General Motors couldn't give me a New Camaro!

Besides the new Camaro is going to be a flop. Sure they will sell some cars but who's going to want the slow Camaro when a Mustang GT500KR or Challenger SRT8 are going to rule the roads? The New Camaro as packaged is going to make the Chevy SSR look like a success story... LOL

i dont understand ur logic.

1. isnt the srt8 going to be slower than the new camaro
2. the gt500kr is rediculously expensive so how can u compare

**GottaHaveLS1** · 02-29-2008, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by ATCharming

i dont understand ur logic.

1. isnt the srt8 going to be slower than the new camaro
2. the gt500kr is rediculously expensive so how can u compare

I agree with that absolutely. The challenger is pretty damn slow for 435 hp. I mean come on! It can't even get into the 12's?

btw, how much does the new camaro weigh? I know it will have IRS, but will that make the power to weight ratio go to shit? i hope not. I think the camaro can do well, but i'm not sure if it survive past a couple years seeing that we should be developing hybrid/electric cars instead of more gas guzzlers.

**ATCharming** · 02-29-2008, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1

I agree with that absolutely. The challenger is pretty damn slow for 435 hp. I mean come on! It can't even get into the 12's?

btw, how much does the new camaro weigh? I know it will have IRS, but will that make the power to weight ratio go to shit? i hope not. I think the camaro can do well, but i'm not sure if it survive past a couple years seeing that we should be developing hybrid/electric cars instead of more gas guzzlers.

im 90% sure they changed it back to solid axle