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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    ARH just has a better design and clearance if you're into that sorta thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    is you look at ARH and kooks side-by-side the ARH hangs lower than the kooks. FACT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    lol,. yes because kooks is crushed
    so which one is it? does it have better clearance? or is it kooks because they change the shape of their y-pipe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    so which one is it? does it have better clearance? or is it kooks because they change the shape of their y-pipe?
    Again. Let me type slower for you.

    Kooks has to crush their y pipe to make it fit. ARH does not have to crush their y pipe to make it fit.

    Every installer I know says ARH tucks up nicer than Kooks despite not crushing their y pipe. I don't know what else to tel you. lol

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    but you agreed ARH hangs lower than kooks? and said the reason it hangs lower is because they dont crush there y-pipe? so how is the clearance better if it hangs lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    but you agreed ARH hangs lower than kooks? and said the reason it hangs lower is because they dont crush there y-pipe? so how is the clearance better if it hangs lower?
    lol, why would I agree to something that's incorrect?

    If you're talking about my "yes, because Kooks is crushed" comment; i was being facitious based on the fact that a company has to crush a pipe to make it fit rather than come up with a better design.

    lol, I don't want to argue, if it makes you get better sleep at night, your crushed y pipe that doesn't have a "true" merge collector and doesn't tuck up compared to ARH is way better than mine.

    Now here's a ****ing smiley dude riding a horse for no apparant reason.


    now he's fapping
    Last edited by Vertiviper; 04-30-2010 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    is you look at ARH and kooks side-by-side the ARH hangs lower than the kooks. FACT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    lol,. yes because kooks is crushed
    this. /end you agreed ARH hangs lower than kooks/

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    You guys are friggin' killing me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    lol, why would I agree to something that's incorrect?

    If you're talking about my "yes, because Kooks is crushed" comment; i was being facitious based on the fact that a company has to crush a pipe to make it fit rather than come up with a better design.

    lol, I don't want to argue, if it makes you get better sleep at night, your crushed y pipe that doesn't have a "true" merge collector and doesn't tuck up compared to ARH is way better than mine.

    Now here's a ****ing smiley dude riding a horse for no apparant reason.


    now he's fapping

    he's still fapping

    I made it big and red this time. I apologize that my repetitive correcting of your assumption that my comment was not sarcastic has not been understood.



    In case you missed everything I just said. My comment of "yes, because Kooks is crush" was sarcastic, facetious and all around a joke based on the fact that a company has to crush a pipe to make it fit.

    And, no. No, again..every installer I know says that ARH's tuck up much better than Kooks.


    Highlighting....Ctrl-c, putting Ctrl-V on standby...and we wait
    Last edited by Vertiviper; 04-30-2010 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    well, lets go back to basic math, the diameter of the pipe changes but the area of the air flowing through is the same, so i disagree. its still a 3 inch pipe just in a diffrent shape. you follow broski? ugh ugh
    Completely inaccurate. If circumference remains constant, the area of the cross-section is maximized if the shape is a circle. Anything other than circular results in decreased area.
    Last edited by mbrownin; 04-30-2010 at 01:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bberretta View Post
    You guys are friggin' killing me!
    You need to come to one of our family functions.. lol good times

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    there's only one way to solve this. here's a pic of my ground clearance at its lowest point with my Kooks ORY. My ORY has been adjusted so it doesn't bang against the floor at all under any conditions. Stock suspension and tire size

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    Will either the Kooks or the Arh hook up to the pasesetters? Which is the better overall fit? Thanks, Jimmy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    ARH has the best ORY on the market, their merge collectors have a better design and flow better than Kooks.
    Quote Originally Posted by bberretta View Post
    Hell, I'll be happy with my LSXtreme Performance Y for half the price... heh...heh..
    I'll take a Y with a real merge collector anyday over a Y with just 2 pipes welded together.

    I've used the pacesetter Y's with the same design merge that the Kooks has. I wasn't impressed with the pacesetters so I'm staying away from any other brand with that design. If it doesn't have a real merge, I don't want it.

    I can deal with fitment afterwards, that's the easy part.

    I've seen pics of the LSXtreme Y pipe and it appears to be a very nice design (with a real merge). I am looking to remove both of my pacesetter Y's and change to something else. Was looking at Texas Speed Y's, but after seeing the LSXtreme I'm going to give those a shot.

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    As a guy with Kooks and really liking them, I have to admit I like the ARH better...from what I've seen so far. I still wanna see a ground clearance pic.
    I wish I would have researched a tad more before i bought. I might have choosen the ARH for the not flat pipe and nice merge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    there's only one way to solve this. here's a pic of my ground clearance at its lowest point with my Kooks ORY. My ORY has been adjusted so it doesn't bang against the floor at all under any conditions. Stock suspension and tire size
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    The gauntlet has been thrown- the ever-accurate, scientifically-precise "Miller Light Measurement".

    You do realize I will have to buy a sixer just to do my measurement now! I mean, we have to be consistent, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bberretta View Post
    The gauntlet has been thrown- the ever-accurate, scientifically-precise "Miller Light Measurement".

    You do realize I will have to buy a sixer just to do my measurement now! I mean, we have to be consistent, right?
    Don't forget, that measurement is only accurate if the can is empty.

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    I suppose if it comes down to fractions of an inch, I can break out the tape measure

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    Quote Originally Posted by bberretta View Post
    The gauntlet has been thrown- the ever-accurate, scientifically-precise "Miller Light Measurement".

    You do realize I will have to buy a sixer just to do my measurement now! I mean, we have to be consistent, right?
    Ohhhhhh...i drink bud

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    the mufflex ypipe is also a very nice piece... very very close to an ARH y.

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    the best ory is a custom built...period ...i am tired of my shitty ory from QTP..granted it has a true merge design...but i can take that merge and have a shop put the arms on it to get better clearance..

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