What do stock LS1's dyno/run in the 1/4?

**tonyjnjz** · 08-12-2006, 11:18 PM

what did the 5 fingers say to the face? slaaaaaaaaaaaap!!!! lol

**jbrooks454** · 08-13-2006, 10:41 AM

I had a 2000 Z28 A4 and I was running 13.2 to 13.3 @ 105 M.P.H. stock. I watched my buddy in his 2001 SS M6 run a 13.11 @ 109 M.P.H bone stock If anyone is running higher than 13.4 in a stock LS1 F-body then someone needs to give them driving lessons

**GA Country Boy** · 08-13-2006, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

motertrend/car n driver.....a true testiment to what a car is capable of can be found there.........fbodys have always run 13.1 to 13.5 or so in ...at 103-108mph with 6 speeds usually being the higher of the 2. i remember an article back in 98 or 99 where they tested a ws6 6 speed at 13.09 at 107.8...bone stock obviously

Seeing as how you quoted Motortrend/Car 'n Driver, I checked their website and this is what I found:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html
Specifications & Performance
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Ford Mustang GT
Vehicle configuration Front engine/rear drive
2-dr. convertible Front engine/rear drive
2-dr. convertible
Engine type V-8, OHV, 2 valves/cyl. V-8, SOHC, 2 valves/cyl.
Displacement, ci/cc 346.0/5669 280.1/4588
Horsepower @ rpm 305 @ 5200 260 @ 5250
Torque @ rpm 335 @ 4000 300 @ 4000
Transmission type 4-speed auto. 4-speed auto.
Wheelbase, in/mm 101.1/2568 101.3/2573
Base curb weight, lb 3574 3429
0-60 mph, sec 5.5 6.2
Quarter mile, sec/mph 14.0/101.3 14.6/95.4
Braking 60-0 mph, 125 123
Lateral acceleration, g 0.83 0.84
600-ft slalom, mph 65.7 65.0
EPA city/hwy, mpg 17/24 17/24
Base price $27,850 $24,870
Price as tested $31,358 $27,900

I placed the link above so anybody can check and see if what you are saying
is accurate or just wishful thinking (in case they don't believe what I have copied above). I couldn't find any 13:09's ANYWHERE!
What did the 5 fingers say to the face? slaaaaaaaaaaaap!!!! lol

**GA Country Boy** · 08-13-2006, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by preppy

south ga corvette, winprep in ground dyno , eddy current

I think you are referring to a Dynojet model 178. Model 178 is specifically for Legend Cars and vehicles of the same size and power output and is limited to
a maximum of 500 HP. "Eddy Current" is the retarder option. I have no personal
experience with that model since I've never raced Legend cars so I can't vouch for its accuracy or lack of, but generally Dynojets are pretty reliable. I am more
familiar with the dynos in the Atlanta area like the model 248-C I usually use which is good to 2,000 HP, but I still make occasional runs on other dynos to make sure the numbers are in the same ball park.

**preppy** · 08-13-2006, 06:31 PM

Aaron Scott of SGC is pmimarily into vipers now, he has a twin turbo built viper dynoed on his machine at 1267hp - so its at least good for that. I went to U.S.19 dragway today an ran consistant 8.80-8.90 at 83 mph

**GA Country Boy** · 08-13-2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by preppy

Aaron Scott of SGC is pmimarily into vipers now, he has a twin turbo built viper dynoed on his machine at 1267hp - so its at least good for that. I went to U.S.19 dragway today an ran consistant 8.80-8.90 at 83 mph

Then it must not be a model 178. I was just going by your description.
Congrats on your numbers today. It was a good day to go to the strip.

**tonyjnjz** · 08-14-2006, 12:39 PM

thats one test out of several theve done and BY FAR the slowest numbers ive seen out of either mag..and your talkin about an auto prolly wiht 2.73s as well..........find 6 speed numbers and check out the article on the ws6 they did back in 98..motertrend.....car ran 5.1 to 60 and 13.1 at 107 quarter
nice u can find the article with the slowest numbers...good job ga boy

**tonyjnjz** · 08-14-2006, 12:41 PM

thats also a vert ga boy?? r u kidding me...we all know there heavier and because of that slower ..your a tool

**tonyjnjz** · 08-14-2006, 01:07 PM

here ya go

99 Pontiac Firebird Formula Ram Air
5.7 L 346.0 cu in LS1
320 hp @ 5200 rpm 345 ft.-lb. torque @ 4400 rpm
13.15 sec quarter mile @ 108.27 mph
0 to 30 2.08 sec
0 to 60 4.94 sec
Manual 6 Speed with 3.42 Gears
3341 lbs curb weight
Test by Popular Mechanics

http://members.aol.com/kts8888/autos...cfirebird.html

**GA Country Boy** · 08-14-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

thats one test out of several theve done and BY FAR the slowest numbers ive seen out of either mag..and your talkin about an auto prolly wiht 2.73s as well..........find 6 speed numbers and check out the article on the ws6 they did back in 98..motertrend.....car ran 5.1 to 60 and 13.1 at 107 quarter
nice u can find the article with the slowest numbers...good job ga boy

YOU are the one who said "motertrend/car n driver.....a true testiment to what a car is capable of can be found there....", so I went to see what the "true testiment'' was, and lo and behold it aint what YOU said! BUT now you don't like
their "true testiment". It's there in black and white for everybody to see, but now instead of showing proof of what you said about Motortrend/Car 'n Driver you give us a link to somebody's personal website on AOL who SAYS it's from Popular Mechanics. AND YOU copied it as if it was from Popular Mechanics which it isn't. It's from some unknown person's web site. Which really has nothing to do with Motortrend/Car 'n Driver anyway.

As to your ignorant post: "thats also a vert ga boy?? r u kidding me...we all know there heavier and because of that slower ..your a tool"
If you don't like the link I gave to Motortrend/Car 'n Driver then give us a link to them that backs up what you said. YOU'RE the one who said the "true testiment" could be found there. I didn't pick what they did or didn't test.
Don't forget YOU are the one who said "a true testiment to what a car is capable of can be found there....", so being childish and calling me names is not going to change the facts. Obviousy you were either innocently mistaken or just plain lieing, either way I really don't care, but your response seems to
be indicative of which it was.

**GA Country Boy** · 08-14-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

here ya go

99 Pontiac Firebird Formula Ram Air
5.7 L 346.0 cu in LS1
320 hp @ 5200 rpm 345 ft.-lb. torque @ 4400 rpm
13.15 sec quarter mile @ 108.27 mph
0 to 30 2.08 sec
0 to 60 4.94 sec
Manual 6 Speed with 3.42 Gears
3341 lbs curb weight
Test by Popular Mechanics

http://members.aol.com/kts8888/autos...cfirebird.html

BTW, the same guy had these listings under Camaros (but I guess you must have missed them)

98 Chevy Camaro Z28
5.7 L 346.0 cu in LS1
305 hp @ 5200 rpm 335 ft.-lb. torque @ 4400 rpm
13.9 sec quarter mile @ 102.5 mph
0 to 60 5.4 sec
Manual 6 Speed with 3.42 Gears
Test by Road and Track 97

99 Chevy Camaro Z28 SS
5.7 L 346.0 cu in LS1
320 hp @ 5200 rpm 345 ft.-lb. torque @ 4400 rpm
13.42 sec quarter mile @ 106.15 mph
0 to 30 2.27 sec
0 to 60 5.27 sec
Manual 6 Speed with 3.42 Gears
3439 lbs curb weight
Test by Popular Mechanics

**tonyjnjz** · 08-15-2006, 11:11 AM

those numbers were in motortrend back in 98..i have the mag..but i cant find the article online since they did another one in 2000..was a red ws6 back in 98 in the article

**GA Country Boy** · 08-15-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

those numbers were in motortrend back in 98..i have the mag..but i cant find the article online since they did another one in 2000..was a red ws6 back in 98 in the article

If you find it fine. If you don't it doesn't really matter. BUT you should tell us about YOUR car. I think that would be a much more interesting subject than 300 rwhp cars! Lingenfelter puts together pretty impressive machines and yours is probably one of them. A Lingenfelter 383 is something worth talking about.

**tonyjnjz** · 08-15-2006, 04:21 PM

what would u like to know? numbers are 395 rwhp and 399 rwtq when it had no miles on it as the 383 package was installed when the car was brand new....picked it up used a few mths ago for 19,500 with 17k miles on it...its pewter, 6 speed, the man i bought it from is 61 yrs old..car was babied..its immaculate and im lovin it so far....traction has been a prob as the weathers getting a lil cooler..really need some drag rads out back. Car also has the stock suspension so far with the exception of a bmr tq arm i put in a few weeks ago.....has stock exaust manifolds and its REALLY in need of headers..prolly wont be able to pulll that off till spring though...i used to own a 99z 6 speed that was pretty much stock with a few bolt ons then the last 3 yrs i had an rsx-s before buying this car so im learning all over again. Your monster vette sounds even more sick though

**GA Country Boy** · 08-15-2006, 05:00 PM

That 383 Lingenfelter package I think was around 465 HP (so less 15% puts it
just shy of 400rwhp), but I am surprised they didn't feel it was necessary to put headers on it, because they would have done everything else including heads and cam. Maybe they tried to keep it a little quieter, more stealthy, 'cause the headers always makes them noisier. You got a really good deal 'cause the 383 package is worth around $15,000 by itself! And of course when Lingenfelter builds it you know you have got reliability/streetability not like mine. To be able to drive mine (on the street) in the warm weather, I had to put a larger trans pan on adding three quarts of fluid AND an extra trans fluid cooler with a thermostatically operated fan on it AND a larger Be-Cool radiator or it will overheat.
In any event it would be interesting to see what a set of long tube headers would do for you and since your engine is already forged you could always add a blower if you want to get 6-700rwhp or you could just add a little nitrous! 8-) OR you could just leave it like it is...400rwhp is nothing to sneeze at and it will blow away most cars on the road. BTW with 17k on it it's just nicely 'broken in'. You really did get a great deal!!!Have you taken it to the strip? 'Cause I would imagine you would see around 11:77@115.8.

**tonyjnjz** · 08-16-2006, 08:23 AM

nope no strip yet...definitly in the future im sure though...yeah im thinking the same thing about headers 30 rwhp maybe? i know stock ls1's usualy see about 20...as far as the 465 number my paperwork rates it at 460.....the package being installed back in 01 maybe it was slightly diff back then? i figure at 15 percent only about 450-455 though....i also figure the car had 0 miles on it when it was installed and dynoed..yes i think i got a great deal as well...thank you....its the only reason i actualy have the car..i wasnt looking for a car and took what i thought was a cheap stab at it on ebay...and to my shock the reserve is met and the gf is pissed..LOL...as far as upgrading the car i think im gonna stick to just the headers, then suspension for now and maybe brakes in the future....the car really is more than fast enough for me...i cant imagine 6-700 rwhp on the streeet....i barely use all the power the car has now with the exception of highway onramps and when im racing somone.....11.77 that would be one hell of a run....ill be more than happy if i can touch 11's !!

**tonyjnjz** · 08-16-2006, 08:25 AM

oh and this is what lpe said about y they didnt install headers on it

Hi Tony,

We looked into some long tubes for the F-bodys, but legally we weren't
allowed to modify the emission systems on new vehicles
(cats). Thus that is why we did not install LT headers on these
vehicles. I would consider the Kooks long tube headers and Y pipe
with cats for your combination. Price of the headers, cats and Y would
be $1395.00. I would then take it to someone for a tune, to
make sure everything stays safe. Just let me know if you would like a
set!

sincerely,

Jeff Myers
Lingenfelter Performance Engineering
1557 Winchester Rd
Decatur, IN 46733

**GA Country Boy** · 08-16-2006, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by tonyjnjz

oh and this is what lpe said about y they didnt install headers on it

Hi Tony,

We looked into some long tubes for the F-bodys, but legally we weren't
allowed to modify the emission systems on new vehicles
(cats). Thus that is why we did not install LT headers on these
vehicles. I would consider the Kooks long tube headers and Y pipe
with cats for your combination. Price of the headers, cats and Y would
be $1395.00. I would then take it to someone for a tune, to
make sure everything stays safe. Just let me know if you would like a
set!

sincerely,

Jeff Myers
Lingenfelter Performance Engineering
1557 Winchester Rd
Decatur, IN 46733

That explains it!!! Guess what I'd be getting next if I were you?

But then you said that already!!! I'm sure those cats must be worn out by now...

**ErikElvis** · 08-21-2006, 10:05 AM

My car came with the 345hp option and ran 13.5 @106 with a 2.2 60'. No other mods besides SFC's and STB. Oh I did swap the original DD for the LM2 DD. I should get 13.3's with a good 60'. Hope to dyno soon.

**GA Country Boy** · 08-21-2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by ErikElvis

My car came with the 345hp option and ran 13.5 @106 with a 2.2 60'. No other mods besides SFC's and STB. Oh I did swap the original DD for the LM2 DD. I should get 13.3's with a good 60'. Hope to dyno soon.

Damn ErikElvis you're a nice guy, but despite all my drag racing and other racing experience you're losing me. I don't know if it's a "generation" thing, but I don't have a clue what you're talking about!!! SFC's, STB, DD, ??? I think the LM2 is a wide band sensor, but...is this a "trekky" thing?

BUT congrats on your time. It's a good start!