dodge challenger finally

**Redegal** · 04-29-2009, 04:11 PM

It went 170MPh on a Dyno?

**Roastem** · 04-29-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Redegal

It went 170MPh on a Dyno?

Haha, or had it on sodding jackstands!

**hutch1999** · 04-29-2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by willys srt8

b/s. ever heard of the F4 Phantom? that alone proved bricks could fly with enough power. as for top end.... check sig. not at redline just way too fast.

With enough power almost anything is possible. But bricks are not meant to go fast. Imagine the same power in a more aerodynamically sound vehicle. It would be a much better setup with more top speed and better stability. That is why we dont see new ferraris and corvettes designed like a srt8s and phantoms.

**Deuuuce** · 04-30-2009, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

making claims for either without proof is also silly.

had mine at 166 and still pulling slowly, but ran out of road! it would hit 170+ no problem on the right stretch.

Ever try the search function?

An SRT-8 will hit 150mph about 6-7 seconds before an LS1 due to the shift into 5th a 3:42 fbody has make. And they are documented 172mph cars, too. Think C5 6M. Nearly identical performance.

Originally Posted by hutch1999

bricks just dont fly very well

.355 cd. Despite the frontal area top-end isn't a problem when you're making 425hp near redline in a 1:1 gear that tops out over 170mph....

**Zinergy** · 04-30-2009, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Deuuuce

Ever try the search function?

An SRT-8 will hit 150mph about 6-7 seconds before an LS1 due to the shift into 5th a 3:42 fbody has make. And they are documented 172mph cars, too. Think C5 6M. Nearly identical performance.

.355 cd. Despite the frontal area top-end isn't a problem when you're making 425hp near redline in a 1:1 gear that tops out over 170mph....

Although i know the srt-8 cars pull hard up top i think 6-7 seconds is a bit of a lie

**Deuuuce** · 04-30-2009, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by Roastem

Wow, I take a year off, come back, and waddya know, ole Deuuuce is still here defending the Mopar faith! Good on ya mate!

lol. These topics haven't come up in over a year either.

**Deuuuce** · 04-30-2009, 06:49 AM

A couple of bones:

http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/timeslips.php?

http://www.lxforums.com/board/timeslips.php

**hutch1999** · 04-30-2009, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Deuuuce

Ever try the search function?

An SRT-8 will hit 150mph about 6-7 seconds before an LS1 due to the shift into 5th a 3:42 fbody has make. And they are documented 172mph cars, too. Think C5 6M. Nearly identical performance.

.355 cd. Despite the frontal area top-end isn't a problem when you're making 425hp near redline in a 1:1 gear that tops out over 170mph....

Saying they will hit 150 6-7 sec ahead is a stretch, maybe an a4 car, m6 I find that hard to believe. The only way to prove you are right on that subject is some video proof or where someone actually tested it. Right now your information sounds like hearsay or personal experience with a hasty generalization that all ls1s pull the same. There is a big difference between a stock manual and auto when pulling to 150mph.

Like I said before bricks do not fly very well, imagine the motor and driveline in a smaller, lighter, more aerodynamic vehicle. It would be much faster than a srt8 in every aspect.

I would have loved to have seen mopar put the srt8 engine in a small, aerodynamic, <3500lb, rwd coupe, and make it around 25k-30k but that would be to easy to build what people want and what would sell.

**b.lee** · 04-30-2009, 07:28 AM

**big hammer** · 04-30-2009, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Deuuuce

Ever try the search function?

An SRT-8 will hit 150mph about 6-7 seconds before an LS1 due to the shift into 5th a 3:42 fbody has make. And they are documented 172mph cars, too. Think C5 6M. Nearly identical performance.

.355 cd. Despite the frontal area top-end isn't a problem when you're making 425hp near redline in a 1:1 gear that tops out over 170mph....

have any proof of this? i find it hard to believe when they're running mid 13's at 103ish mph in the 1\4

**Zinergy** · 04-30-2009, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

have any proof of this? i find it hard to believe when they're running mid 13's at 103ish mph in the 1\4

Lol they are not, i have seen bone stock srt-8 cars run 13.1s at 107-109mph.

Hell the bone stock srt-8 jeep traps 103-104mph stock, maybe thats what you are thinking of

**big hammer** · 04-30-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

Lol they are not, i have seen bone stock srt-8 cars run 13.1s at 107-109mph.

Hell the bone stock srt-8 jeep traps 103-104mph stock, maybe thats what you are thinking of

so all srt8's everywhere are running 13.1's at all times?

i can see them running lower 13s with a good driver.

**Zinergy** · 04-30-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

so all srt8's everywhere are running 13.1's at all times?

i can see them running lower 13s with a good driver.

No, but all the SRT-8 cars except some of the challenger are autos, so they all run and trap damn near close times at same elevation. And since anyone can push a gas pedal they run low to mid 13s consistently and yes people have dipped into the high 12s with them. Since the new challenger is 100lbs less than the charger and is going to have a manual options i bet quite a few people will get those to hit 12.9s

**big hammer** · 04-30-2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

No, but all the SRT-8 cars except some of the challenger are autos, so they all run and trap damn near close times at same elevation. And since anyone can push a gas pedal they run low 13s consistently.

then why are mags getting such poor speeds out of them? the poor driving accounts for the slow times, but how are they going from 103 to 109? that's quite the spread...

**Zinergy** · 04-30-2009, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

then why are mags getting such poor speeds out of them? the poor driving accounts for the slow times, but how are they going from 103 to 109? that's quite the spread...

You do realize that some mags got a best time of 13.8 for the WS6 and SS? Since then people have gone as low as 12.8s stock.

**big hammer** · 04-30-2009, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

You do realize that some mags got a best time of 13.8 for the WS6 and SS? Since then people have gone as low as 12.8s stock.

most mags got around 13.5 for an ls1 car--- most good drivers get low 13s.

yes very very few people have got a stock ls1 into the 12s. about as many who got an srt8 into the 12s, or an evo and sti... it might have happened once somewhere, but it aint gonna happen to you. nobody considers ls1 fbodys 12 second cars, just like srt8s, evos and sti's.

**Zinergy** · 04-30-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

most mags got around 13.5 for an ls1 car--- most good drivers get low 13s.

yes very very few people have got a stock ls1 into the 12s. about as many who got an srt8 into the 12s, or an evo and sti... it might have happened once somewhere, but it aint gonna happen to you. nobody considers ls1 fbodys 12 second cars, just like srt8s, evos and sti's.

There are more people who have gotten stock evo 9s annd xs into the 12s than ls1 cars, same with the 08+ STI. Im not trying to say the srt-8 cars are 12 second cars, i just said low 13s @107-109mph isnt hard

willys srt8 · 04-30-2009, 02:04 PM

i already posted the mag times for those in doubt.

Originally Posted by willys srt8

mag and bench racing.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

2007 Chrysler 300C SRT-8 4.7 0-60, 13.2@109 (C&D June 05)
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 4.7 0-60, 13.0 (R&T July '08)
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 4.8 0-60,13.2 (C&D Dec '07)
2005 Dodge Charger R/T 5.6 0-60, 14.2 (R&T Aug '05)
2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 4.9 0-60, 13.3@108.2 (R&T Dec.'05)
2008 Dodge Charger SRT-8 4.8 0-60, 13.2@108 (C&D Dec 07)
2005 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD 5.9 0-60, 14.5 (C&D Aug '05)
2005 Dodge Magnum SRT8 5.1 0-60, 13.6 (C&D Sept '05)

1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 0-60, 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 0-60, 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 0-60, 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 0-60, 13.6

1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 0-60, 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.1 0-60, 14.7
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.3 0-60, 14.8
1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 0-60, 14.1
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 0-60, 13.9
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 0-60, 15.1
1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 0-60, 14.0
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 0-60, 14.3
1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.8l 7.2 0-60, 15.5 (C&D Jun '97)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.3 0-60, 13.9 (C&D Jun '98)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 0-60, 13.4
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 0-60, 13.4

2004 Pontiac GTO LS1 5.3 0-60, 13.8
2005 Pontiac GTO LS2 5.2 0-60, 13.7@103.9 w/MT (R&T Dec 05)
2005 Pontiac GTO V8 w/6 Spd 4.8 0-60, 13.3 (C&D Jan '05)

and the list goes on. just line up and be done with it. GET IT ON VID seeing is believing

**big hammer** · 04-30-2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

There are more people who have gotten stock evo 9s annd xs into the 12s than ls1 cars, same with the 08+ STI. Im not trying to say the srt-8 cars are 12 second cars, i just said low 13s @107-109mph isnt hard

again, you have any proof of this of do you just like spouting off?

**LS1Jason** · 04-30-2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

There are more people who have gotten stock evo 9s annd xs into the 12s than ls1 cars, same with the 08+ STI. Im not trying to say the srt-8 cars are 12 second cars, i just said low 13s @107-109mph isnt hard

you've lost your mind if you think an 08+ STI is dropping anywhere near 12's STOCK. once you realize this is the internet, and ppl are full of shit, you'll be alot better off. I could lie all day long and say my car is stock, with a muffler and give you quicker times than something stock is running. You'd have a better chance of hitting that 12.9 in an 05 or 06 STI than you would a new one.