auto vs manual

**djvaly** · 04-10-2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am

I take it you went high compression?

yes! just like the LS7 block.

**djvaly** · 04-10-2007, 02:00 PM

ok back to auto vs manual... I think we covered all the grounds.. mwwuaahahahah

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 04-10-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by djvaly

yes! just like the LS7 block.

I'm planning on doing a low compression motor based on the LSX block and doing either a pro-charger or turbo. It'll be a couple of years so I'll see what's on the market when I get there. I have a chance to get a LSX block for 1200.

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 04-10-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by djvaly

ok back to auto vs manual... I think we covered all the grounds.. mwwuaahahahah

Pretty much!

**djvaly** · 04-10-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am

I'm planning on doing a low compression motor based on the LSX block and doing either a pro-charger or turbo. It'll be a couple of years so I'll see what's on the market when I get there. I have a chance to get a LSX block for 1200.

a small block LS2 for that price is not much, it's a steal.

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 04-10-2007, 03:05 PM

I might have to skip my headers to get it this spring. I'd just set it aside until I can afford to build it up. That block can handle 2500 HP!!!!

**djvaly** · 04-10-2007, 03:07 PM

wow. good deal mate!

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 04-10-2007, 03:12 PM

I figure with a mild forged stroker build, low comp and force fed it should be able to do more that what I want it to.

**djvaly** · 04-10-2007, 06:02 PM

sure thing

**D&LCustomFabrication** · 05-02-2007, 01:00 PM

Do Hypertech on it.

**djvaly** · 05-02-2007, 01:03 PM

well hello there! thanks for waking up a 3 weeks old thread. anyways LS1Edit is better than Hypertech. go get A4 tranny built up, put a stall in it too and LS1Edit it

**D&LCustomFabrication** · 05-02-2007, 01:09 PM

Will look into doing that

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by djvaly

goats are fat

Mine ain't.

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by djvaly

well hello there! thanks for waking up a 3 weeks old thread. anyways LS1Edit is better than Hypertech. go get A4 tranny built up, put a stall in it too and LS1Edit it

HP Tuners allows many more parameters that allows a much more significantly tuned car than LS1Edit. Try a SD tune with both of them and let me know

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 01:52 PM

Oh almost forgot. A properly setup Auto will walk a M6 all day everyday.

**djvaly** · 05-02-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Oh almost forgot. A properly setup Auto will walk a M6 all day everyday.

**djvaly** · 05-02-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

HP Tuners allows many more parameters that allows a much more significantly tuned car than LS1Edit. Try a SD tune with both of them and let me know

LG Motorsports uses LS1Edit and some other LS2 tunner software to tune their race cars... I'll ask them if they have HP Tuners as well.

**Sarge** · 05-02-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by djvaly

LG Motorsports uses LS1Edit and some other LS2 tunner software to tune their race cars... I'll ask them if they have HP Tuners as well.

Good man. HP Tuners is a much more robust package.

**djvaly** · 05-02-2007, 02:08 PM

**Wesman** · 05-02-2007, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Oh almost forgot. A properly setup Auto will walk a M6 all day everyday.

Way to start the arguement up again.

Thats not an accurate statement. A properly setup manual with a skilled driver can kick the shit out of many an auto. A stalled auto is not invincible.

Think about it:

2 otherwise identical cars, both with 4.10 gears, the auto with a built transmission and a stall, the manual with a racing clutch and built T56.

The automatic is always going to lose more power through the drivetrain. Therefore it has the disadvantage, all other things being equal. A T56 with 4.10's will never fall off the powerband, just as a stalled 4L60 won't fall off the powerband. Difference is the manual stays in the powerband because the gear ratios are close together, the auto stays in the powerband because the converter allows slippage. Slippage equals wasted power.

With a skilled driver, a built M6 will beat a stalled auto every time.