Got bit...boy did it hurt!!

**LS2 KLR** · 01-29-2008, 12:17 AM

The old, "I can throw a sc on my lsx and blow away a cobra." Really man, wake up. Sure and lsx will outrun a cobra with less hp, but once you crank up the power to compete, you're on borrowed time.

**hoss 2000 z-28** · 01-29-2008, 03:44 AM

OP, just drive what you want to drive. These guys make good points but we aren't driving your car! You can make just about any car run 11's, it just takes $$$. I like the interriors of the Mustangs better personally but I like the lines and torque of an F-body so much more so that's what I bought after shopping both. I've seen guys go from a Mustang to a F-body and vice-versa, it's cool. As long as you drive American muscle it's all good. Post this same thread over on mustangforum and your feedback will be different, we are biased!

Good luck

**Tracker9118** · 01-29-2008, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by TrickStang37

really? one mod? i didnt know the injectors and fuel pump were capable on a stock LS1, let alone the tune. or the fuel rails. or the cooling system. guess that's a pretty stout stock clutch and rear end to boot! LS1's have quite a bit of overengineering apparently!

STILL NEEDS THE TUNE!
You dont need injectors or a fuel pump,fuel rails, cooling system just reset temp when they come on.
But it needs the tune, you are wright some what. My shop has told me that if i do up the pump & injectors it may up it 5-20 more hp.
But wright now im still working with my shop to find out how much more i can get out b-4 i do that. wright now it at (451 rwhp) not fine tuned yet. I have a Z06 in the camaro in the pic, that is put out an ungod of (596rwhp) but after a trany/rear end went to hell still working on finding parts.

**Roastem** · 01-29-2008, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by LS2 KLR

The old, "I can throw a sc on my lsx and blow away a cobra." Really man, wake up. Sure and lsx will outrun a cobra with less hp, but once you crank up the power to compete, you're on borrowed time.

Yeah well Trollio, we have a factory blown LSX now in the new Blue Devil, lets see how the Ford gang handles that once they start "throwing pulleys" and "porting" superchargers.

620 HP stock ring a bell? Forged components, hmmmm....

**BlankinSShip** · 01-29-2008, 06:29 AM

Why even give the Mudstains our time of day? Who cares if they are "faster"... They have been beaten down by the LS1 for year, and needed to redeem themselves. We still have raw engine, we still have bigger blocks (balls), and we still see more women driving Mustangs than men...

So lets not worry about the details, get back to this guys thread, and remember that LS1 is the best out there...

Cheers...

**TrickStang37** · 01-29-2008, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by BlankinSShip

Why even give the Mudstains our time of day? Who cares if they are "faster"... They have been beaten down by the LS1 for year, and needed to redeem themselves. We still have raw engine, we still have bigger blocks (balls), and we still see more women driving Mustangs than men...

So lets not worry about the details, get back to this guys thread, and remember that LS1 is the best out there...

Cheers...

you can keep all the men and their balls if you want them that bad, I'll take the women and the win.

all that aside, you cant go wrong whichever you decide. If i didnt buy the cobra, i would have went LS1. but i cant see the stock fuel system holding up
on the fbody's. maybe they do, I dont know. i know even at my power level my fuel pump is at max duty cycle and the stock injectors are going to be done once im over 500rwhp.

**LS2 KLR** · 01-29-2008, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Roastem

Yeah well Trollio, we have a factory blown LSX now in the new Blue Devil, lets see how the Ford gang handles that once they start "throwing pulleys" and "porting" superchargers.

620 HP stock ring a bell? Forged components, hmmmm....

Be sure to reread my post and then yours. Then hopefully you will realize what a moron you are. Chevy didn't just throw a sc on that engine, it was built for it just as the cobra motor. And yes it will be sick though I doubt I'll ever see one on the road.

And troll, can't say I've ever been accused of that. I was a member back in the day long before you (joe347r6). Ironically, I also own an ls2 vehicle but thanks.

**Roastem** · 01-29-2008, 10:14 AM

Mustang guys who start talking trash here are generally trolls. Seeing as how I don't go to Mustang websites and start talking crap, I can't sympathize with you.

Lets get back on topic shall we Trollio el Morono?

**99 Kobra** · 01-29-2008, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by MikeSomething

I understand where you're coming from, but there's always something faster out there... Most people who have Termy's get tired of the S/C and swap em out for a turbo setup. Either way it's still money. You want something faster than an LS1, but what you don't understand is it's all about the preference of the actual car (looks etc.) you're driving man. Good luck tho!

Who the hell told you that "most" of us swap the blower for a turbo? Hardly any of us do that!

**99 Kobra** · 01-29-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by ss~zoso~ss

heads and cam in LS1 can make over 400 to the ground

My '04 Cobra did 428 rwhp on a Dyno Jet with only a FIPK and JBA mufflers.

**Johns00Z28** · 01-29-2008, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Roastem

Mustang guys who start talking trash here are generally trolls. Seeing as how I don't go to Mustang websites and start talking crap, I can't sympathize with you.

Lets get back on topic shall we Trollio el Morono?

Yeah I'm a little perplexed as to why people who don't even own or plan to own LS1's come in here. I used to own a 2001 GT w/ pretty much everything you could possibly do to it. Never once did I think, hey let me go onto another car forum and talk about how my car is superior.

**adam3566** · 01-29-2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by 99 Kobra

Who the hell told you that "most" of us swap the blower for a turbo? Hardly any of us do that!

There is ALOT of guys actually doing it. Here are just a few I quick could think of off the top of my head, http://1320video.com/ryanfeatured.php, also http://dynosport.com/ scroll to the cobra section and theres 6 or 7 in the top ten alone that are turboed. Visit a few mustang forums and you'll see more turboed than blown cobra's.

**adam3566** · 01-29-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by 99 Kobra

My '04 Cobra did 428 rwhp on a Dyno Jet with only a FIPK and JBA mufflers.

Big difference there too, N/A vs power adder, and lets compare power bands. I can guarantee the N/A is going to be a lot better than the boosted cobra. I will say some cobras do have a nasty power band but not all.

**Johns00Z28** · 01-29-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by adam3566

There is ALOT of guys actually doing it. Here are just a few I quick could think of off the top of my head, http://1320video.com/ryanfeatured.php, also http://dynosport.com/ scroll to the cobra section and theres 6 or 7 in the top ten alone that are turboed. Visit a few mustang forums and you'll see more turboed than blown cobra's.

Well I've been outta the mustang loop for the past year but from my experience I'd have to say that cobra owners generally swap blowers, like the Kenne Bell or Whipple for the stock eaton blower. I know some guys do put turbos on but I'd say that it's not a large percentage.

**thopsramair** · 01-29-2008, 12:18 PM

The poor guy just needs to go get an 03 Cobra like the one that whipped him. Do a few mods to get it into the 11's like he wants. And then when he gets whipped in that car by a LS1 then he will post the same thing on his mustang forum. Soon after, he will be back in a LS1 so there is not much to argue about.

**Tracker9118** · 01-29-2008, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Roastem

Mustang guys who start talking trash here are generally trolls. Seeing as how I don't go to Mustang websites and start talking crap, I can't sympathize with you.

Lets get back on topic shall we Trollio el Morono?

**LS2 KLR** · 01-29-2008, 09:23 PM

You can't deny the crazy potential the cobras have with stock motors. Even so, I'd much rather see it lose to an underdog such as an ls1 or gt. If it were me, I would install a 408 with a healthy cam and a shot of gas. Just as the whine of a kb/whipple cobra sounds sick, so does an na car with a nasty cam.

**TrickStang37** · 01-29-2008, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by adam3566

Big difference there too, N/A vs power adder, and lets compare power bands. I can guarantee the N/A is going to be a lot better than the boosted cobra. I will say some cobras do have a nasty power band but not all.

the N/A car will not have a better powerband then a roots/screw powered cobra. full boost pretty much straight off idle. only takes about 100-200rpms.

these numbers arent anything special, plenty of cars make that power and more from imports to old schools. but i dont know of many N/A cars that will have that powerband and area under the curve with only 450rwhp.

**TrickStang37** · 01-29-2008, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by LS2 KLR

You can't deny the crazy potential the cobras have with stock motors. Even so, I'd much rather see it lose to an underdog such as an ls1 or gt. If it were me, I would install a 408 with a healthy cam and a shot of gas. Just as the whine of a kb/whipple cobra sounds sick, so does an na car with a nasty cam.

id much rather see it lose too, it gets lonely near the top of the food chain

**LS2 KLR** · 01-29-2008, 11:40 PM

Currently my shortblock is at the shop but hoping to get it back by the end of next week. Had it freshened up and dropped the compression to 9:1. Then I'm hoping to hang with the "big boys." It made over 400 with 3lbs so hopefully it puts up some good numbers with around 17.