Vig 3200

**mrr23** · 01-06-2006, 05:54 PM

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**nhraformula** · 01-06-2006, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

no. you do not need to tune for a converter.

that is misleading. some cars need to delete tq mgmt.
also you may wanna up line pressure, change shift points and such.

**nhraformula** · 01-06-2006, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hurley711

What do you mean by the term loose? It's not comprehending in my pea brain what that means.

its kinda like pulling a boat. you have to give it more gas to get moving.
i have a 2.2 1 str and my car feels like stock in terms of gassing it.

**mrr23** · 01-06-2006, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by nhraformula

that is misleading. some cars need to delete tq mgmt.
also you may wanna up line pressure, change shift points and such.

ok. how's this, you don't HAVE to tune for a converter.

or, it depends.

or, maybe.

**oneBADDz** · 01-06-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

ok. how's this, you don't HAVE to tune for a converter.

or, it depends.

or, maybe.

How's this, you don't HAVE to run better than 86 octane, but. . .
maybe you should?

Not trying to be a jerk, just an example

**mrr23** · 01-06-2006, 07:31 PM

well, if we are going to get all specific.... we don't need to modify our vehicles, but we do.

like i said, just because you put a converter in, doesn't mean you need to.

not saying you shouldn't . just don't have to.

would it be beneficial if you do? sure. even stock it would be beneficial. just don't need to.

**mrr23** · 01-06-2006, 07:33 PM

after reading his post again, BBATCAR did ask do you HAVE to. i should have replied no, you do not HAVE to. my mistake.

**oneBADDz** · 01-06-2006, 08:20 PM

Dont' take me the wrong way, I mean no offence I promise

**nhraformula** · 01-06-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

ok. how's this, you don't HAVE to tune for a converter.

or, it depends.

or, maybe.

just like you dont have to dyno tune for a cam right?

**nhraformula** · 01-06-2006, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by mrr23

after reading his post again, BBATCAR did ask do you HAVE to. i should have replied no, you do not HAVE to. my mistake.

all the chicagoland tuners want to /suggest changing the stock computer settings.

**1fastcamarosss11** · 01-06-2006, 09:02 PM

wow, i'm out.

**2001NBMZ28** · 01-07-2006, 10:25 AM

I have the Vig 3200 (a 2K model) - it does stall closer to 3600. I had TM deleted, line pressure raised, in gear idle bumped up cause of idle "hunting" at low speeds and coming to a stop, played with shift points a little. Car ran OK but it's much better now.

**mrr23** · 01-07-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by z_driver1

Dont' take me the wrong way, I mean no offence I promise

none taken

**mrr23** · 01-07-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by nhraformula

well maybe somebody should get there head out of vinci ass and check out what some other speed shops do to ls1 cars.
all the chicagoland tuners want to /suggest changing the stock computer settings.

well, i was wondering who would be the first to mention me in vinci's ass. why not bassani's ass, or yank's ass, or ny-trex's ass? did i say vinci says you don't have/need to? don't know where you extrapolated that from? if you want to know what they think about it, then ask them. don't assume what i say is what someone else says.

to think "I" put a yank py3400e in MY black 00 formula. did no changes to the stock PCM and drive it everyday.

now, again, his question was, do you HAVE to do tuning when you put a converter in. answer is NO, you do not HAVE to. do tuners want to/ suggest changing the stock computer settings? don't know, i don't work for tuners. last i checked, i work for myself.

now, do you want to keep going at this????

**mrr23** · 01-07-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by nhraformula

just like you dont have to dyno tune for a cam right?

completely different scenario. because a cam changes the air/fuel requirements. many have run around without tuning for a cam. so, bad example on your part.

BBATCAR · 01-07-2006, 07:03 PM

Thanks all now I am more confused then ever

Just kidding, I get it. It should be OK without a tune, but may run better with some "tuning" of shifts, etc. I am going with a 2800 or 3000 max because I really don't like the feel of a loose converter but like the launch... I'm just trying to figure out the best lower stall set up with the tightest feel.

Thanks all....

**nhraformula** · 01-08-2006, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by BBATCAR

Thanks all now I am more confused then ever

Just kidding, I get it. It should be OK without a tune, but may run better with some "tuning" of shifts, etc. I am going with a 2800 or 3000 max because I really don't like the feel of a loose converter but like the launch... I'm just trying to figure out the best lower stall set up with the tightest feel.

Thanks all....

anything more or less under a 2.0 str will be lose.
my 2.2 1 is tight, you dont have to pedal it hard at all to get it moving.